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However so far as OS X support is concerened Im not sure whos got what that works.

The end result was, because I live in Sydney, they were unwilling to sell me a card, because of overseas fraud fears.

The real reason, I expect, was that an overseas sale was just too bloody hard.

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Once I gave up my quest for the card, I read in various fora about how buggy the 9.x drivers were for the card, and how CL was pretty indifferent to updatingfixing them.

Since then, theres no indication that CL will be developing 10.x drivers, since the response to their Mac-compatible card was so poor.

As far as sound troubles with the iMic, mine also works fine for what it is.

Aoeu might be having his quality troubles not because of the iMic, but because of the weird unbalanced-gain issues OS X was having for a while, where the gain on one stereo channel would be set to max, and the gain on the other would be nil (or something like that).

Quote: Originally posted by asiufy: It doesnt have to be PCI, you know.

Couple of USB things around, and theres hope for Creatives own USB products.

My understanding is that there are timing issues with usb and audio input.

I bring in iMac (rev C w 433 G4 upgrade), keyboardmouse, power chord.

Less stuff that has to get plugged in when you set up, the better.

The main reason sound cards are nice is the hardware acceleration and mixing of tons of audio effects at the same time.

It can easily be the difference between 16 CPU utilization with some USB speakers vs a fraction of a percent with a modern gaming card.

Of course then theres the 5.1 multi-channel playback for DVDs, music and games; 3d positional audio; fancy environmental effects (EAX) processed in real-time in hardware instead of software (reverb, sound reflecting and refracting realistically through an environment, etc); DLSSoundfont midi support for games that want to roll their own midi samples; and lots of useful digitalanalog audio ins and outs.

Having dealt with Creative Lab so often in the past with my Windows hardware, I was not optimistic about future support, but it was my little contribution to supporting the Mac platform.

The sound was decent, all four speakers supported, but the drivers were immature.

Being able to play Deus Ex with environmental effects and four-point sound was very nice, though.

Right now, I have a PCI slot being used in my G4-500DP that looks like itll never be utilized within OS X.

No, its not an audio professionals card, but it is an excellent choice for gaming.

Quote: Originally posted by resedit: Maybe on the very high end, Mac has some stuff going for it- but before pros are pros, they are hobbyists.

There are low-end pro audio multi-channel audio cards available for Macs starting at the 250-300 level.

For people who really are more than just casual audiophiles, and are really hobbiests these are very reasonable and very capable audio cards.

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